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:Also, http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue667 --[[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 18:02, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:Also, http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue667 --[[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 18:02, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:: Hmm... I don't understand this. =)) Explain to me, Russian translation will be published or not? When? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 18:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:: Hmm... I don't understand this. =)) Explain to me, Russian translation will be published or not? When? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 18:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
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:: So... what? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 20:48, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
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:: Thanks! --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 13:26, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
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:: Why Russian [http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/deed.ru CC0] and [http://search.creativecommons.org/?lang=ru CCSearch] don't work? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 22:11, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
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:::CC0 probably because latest changes aren't live yet. I believe http://staging.creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/deed.ru ought reflect what is in transifex. I will check with our sysadmin on pushing live Monday. Search, we're about to make some major changes, so translations haven't been updated on the live site for awhile. I'll write back Monday on status of that as well. Thanks! [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 01:02, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
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:::: Also don't work [http://creativecommons.org/choose/?lang=ru Russian License Chooser] (text in English, but it translated to Russian), but early Chooser works. --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 07:32, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
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::::: Added info/who to ping to push to production at http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Translating_CC_Deeds#When_Does_The_Server_Get_Updated.3F [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 22:49, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
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:::::: But [http://search.creativecommons.org/?lang=ru CCSearch] translated several month ago, but yet don't works. Maybe it different error, not just updating? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 09:24, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
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== creativecommons.ru ==
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Hello again! I want create Russian CC website. Can I get access to settings of creativecommons.ru? Or can you make some changes in settings of creativecommons.ru? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 00:13, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
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:Generally such sites are run by a jurisdiction affiliate, but current behavior of http://www.creativecommons.ru/ isn't optimal. I'm going to have to discuss with others in CC. I'll give you an update as well as ETA re above turning on Russian deed translations next week. Thanks for poking on this. --[[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 19:02, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
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::For now http://creativecommons.ru has been made to redirect to http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Ru:%D0%97%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0 though for some reason www. isn't yet, will soon. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 01:18, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
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::: Can you give creativecommons.ru to me, not redirect to wiki? I create [http://creativecommonsru.narod.ru/ prototype of Russian page] and want that you change NS-servers to ns.narod2.ru and ns1.narod2.ru or add CNAME: "creativecommons.ru IN CNAME creativecommonsru.narod2.ru". --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 06:07, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
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::: You can do this? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 21:31, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
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:::: Hi, apologies for late response. You should email diane@creativecommmons.org about your interest in running the creativecommons.ru site. Diane runs our affiliate program, including the agreements necessary to allow one to run an official CC jurisdiction website. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 22:28, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
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::::: Unfortunately, "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender". Maybe other contact? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 13:14, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
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:::::: Oops, typo, extra 'm' in domain, my fault. Try diane@creativecommons.org [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 22:48, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
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::::::: Oh, right! --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 22:53, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
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== Deletion ==
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Please delete [[Ru:О творческих общинах]], [[Ru:Лицензии Creative Commons]] and [[Ru:Лицензии]]. --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 00:20, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
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:Done. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 01:22, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
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:: No. Please restore and delete exactly redirects, not pages. --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 05:54, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
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::: Sorry, should be the way you want now. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 06:50, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
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:::: Thanks! --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 09:38, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
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== [[Metrics]] ==
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Hello! When will update of "Approximate Minimum Total CC Licensed Works"? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 04:51, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
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:Hello! Probably in April. We're trying to add/corroborate with other data sources, as Yahoo!'s index is probably getting stale. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 18:55, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
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== CC licenses is revocable in Russia ==
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Hello! What do you think that according to Russian law all licenses will revocable is critical problem? Is it serious obstacle for porting of licenses? Will CC in future approve Russian CC licenses without irrevocable term? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 13:53, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
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: As far as I understand "[http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.en In no way are any of the following rights affected by the license: The author's moral rights]" and it means that moral "right of withdrawal" not conflicted with CC. Yes? CC licenses ported to French law, in which also [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_copyright_law#Moral_rights exists "right of withdrawal"]. --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 11:27, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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:: Hello?! --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 11:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
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:: Hi, sorry for late response. I'm not aware of that particular problem. Others having been cited are requirement of an actual signature and inability to make a free license between two profit making enterprises. These may make using a public license in Russia theoretically impossible; I have no idea what their practical import is. I expect porting activity to wind down for now pending discussion of how we address in 4.0, so it is probably a moot point specifically regarding a port. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 00:30, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
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== Seal "Approved for Free Cultural Works" font ==
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Hi! could you let us know the name of the Fonts used for making the Green "Approved for Free Cultural Works" seal? I'm thinking of translating it to Spanish.
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Thanks in advance. --[[User:Wazaraki|Wazaraki]]
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: Oh, also about Free Cultural Works. And I want to set link to [http://freedomdefined.org/Definition/Ru Russian translation] instead standard English. Can you do this? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 09:32, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
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: See File:Approved-for-free-cultural-works.svg for source, please translate and upload translation. TarzanASG, I'm not sure how easy that will be, but I've added a feature request http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue865 --[[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 01:45, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
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== The only warning ! ==
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If you will make this again, then will regret very strongly. Be careful. Offenders which create psevdo licenses having no legal force in any country, will destroyed like cockroaches. You can be sure. You are vandal. You and your friends will pay millions of dollars for the desecration of copyright. This is warning. I know about every piece of this criminal territory, where rights holders lose these millions of dollars. Under my control are the biggest social networks of Russia which related to The Beatles and not only. I can easy tell about crimes which implement here,  for big number of different people (a lot of of thousand). Sit quietly and do not move, stupid fool. I hope you understood me. --[[User:Master grand|Grand Master]] 05:57, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Strange links. Maybe vandalism ==
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Hello! [[Special:Contributions/Tsanioke|Tsanioke]] adds strange links. Maybe it is vandalism. --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 14:21, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
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:Thanks, blocked and rolled back contributions. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 14:46, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
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== "Distribute" - as appropriate ==
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Hello! I want to ask about "''"Distribute" means to make available to the public the original and copies of the Work or Adaptation, as appropriate, through sale or other transfer of ownership''" from 3.0 licenses. What does "as appropriate" mean in this context? "'''Any''' actions, '''including''' sale or other transfer" or "'''only''' through sale or other transfer"? Russian dictionaries say different. --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 12:41, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
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:Hi, I think "as appropriate" refers to "Work or Adaptation", meaning the sentence can be read "the Work ... through sale..." or "the Adaptation ... through sale" depending on whether a Work or Adaptation is the thing being distributed - as appropriate to Work or Adaptation. I will check on whether this is correct and leave a note here. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 17:15, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
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:: I say not about this. I ask how to translate "as appropriate" at all. According to dictionaries we have 2 versions of translation into Russian because "as appropriate":
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:: 1) For "Distribution" people '''must''' only sale or '''must''' only transfer of ownership. No other variants or alternatives. All other actions is prohibited (well, for "Distribute" term, of course). '''Free Internet-"Distribution" is also prohibited'''.
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:: 2) For "Distribution" people can sale, transfer of ownership or '''anything, any actions''' (any actions "made available to the public the original and copies"). '''Free Internet-"Distribution" is allowed'''.
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:: Taking account of Wikipedia, I think 2nd translation is more correct. Am I right? Or distribution of Wikipedia is "Reproduce", and not "Distribute"? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 17:55, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
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:::I don't think "as appropriate" applies to "through sale or other transfer of ownership" at all, but rather the preceding text, so I'm not sure I understand your question. But clearly free Internet distribution is allowed. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 18:12, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
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:::: Ok! I think I understood. If "as appropriate" applies to "Work or Adaptation", then "Distribute" means only material paper hard copy distribution, and "Reproduce" means free Internet distribution. So and we don't have problems. Thanks! --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 18:39, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
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== Block [[User:Ronisarono]] ==
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Hi,
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This guy vandalised [[CC_Wiki:Translate]].  I could not find a community discussion page for the wiki, or where to report vandalism.  Is there such a page?  It should be mentioned on the Wiki Home, then.
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And while we’re at it: [[User:ValerieWalker1526]] as well.
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[[User:HendrikMaryns|HendrikMaryns]] ([[User talk:HendrikMaryns|talk]]) 16:47, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
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::Done, thanks. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] ([[User talk:Mike Linksvayer|talk]]) 17:02, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 17:02, 6 August 2013

Test. Mike Linksvayer 16:25, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

+ Russian

Please.

  1. [[Talk:CcWiki:About#+ Russian]]
  2. Ru:ЧАВО
  3. Ru:О чем нужно подумать, прежде чем лицензировать свою работу под CC-лицензиями

--TarzanASG 16:14, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Links added. However, could you remove the comma from the 'Before Licensing' translation article title? Commas are used to separate translations, which is probably suboptimal. Thanks! Mike Linksvayer 00:11, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
1) Ok. Ru:Перед лицензированием. 2) Can I to post in this wiki the translation of pages of main site, for example, translation of page http://creativecommons.org/about/? If the answer is "i can", how to name translated pages ("Ru:About" or "Ru:О проекте", etc)? Just site of "Creative Commons Russia" inactive since mid-2007 and almost always the site is not working. 3) Is it possible to add this video on some Creative Commons hosting (for example, http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/)? 4) Can I to post in this wiki the translation of full texts of CC-licenses (now it is here)? --TarzanASG 17:22, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
1) Thanks! 2) You can. I'd say use a Russian title that describes the content, so probably "About CC" in Russian. 3) http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue322 4) Prefer you don't, there isn't an official Russian translation of the legal texts and we'd be sensitive about giving the impression there is. Regarding this and a CC Russia website, I could put you in touch with the person trying to get CC Russia started and licenses ported.Mike Linksvayer 03:02, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Very well! 4) Syb Groeneveld? I will write him e-mail. 5) Why don't work http://translate.creativecommons.org/ru/? I translated all the phrases on http://translate.creativecommons.org/ru/, but the page still shows "679 untranslated words". And how to translate others projects as it is done on the page http://translate.creativecommons.org/de/? --TarzanASG 11:11, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
4) Yes, Syb is the person. 5) http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue323 Mike Linksvayer 14:10, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Pages to delete

I noticed you've done some deletions recently, according to the log, so I thought I'd notify you of some more pages that need that treatment. You can find them in Category:Pages to be deleted (which I just created). Thanks! JesseWeinstein 00:39, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Disabling editing

I wanted to let you know that I've now blocked, via the MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist the possibility for non-administrators to save pages containing any URLs that end with any of the major GTLDs (.com, .org, .net, .info), as a last ditch effort against the tide of spam we've been getting. This has the side effect of severely impeding editing by non-administrators, which we would rather not do. I think there are some more targeted solutions available, but I don't have access to them as a mere administrator, so I wanted to bring the situation to your attention. I'll keep watching for crap to clean up. Good luck. JesseWeinstein 17:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! We're looking into ways of throttling the bogus acct creation and subsequent spamming we're seeing. Mike Linksvayer 17:53, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Great. Let me know (via my talk page preferably, or email otherwise) if I can help in any way. JesseWeinstein 05:21, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
If it is feasible to install the AbuseFilter extension, that is quite flexible enough to allow me to block the current tactics of the spammers... But upgrading MediaWiki to support it might be a large hassle... JesseWeinstein 07:39, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

For the moment, would you just shut off account creation completely -- and tell people to email if they want an account? That would at least stop the deluge -- at this rate, it's not going to be feasible to clean up if it continues... JesseWeinstein 07:37, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

This can be done (albeit inefficiently) by blocking all ~65,000 /16 ranges; I've done the first three as a demonstration here: Special:BlockList; I could hack up a script to do the rest of them if necessary. PLEASE, do something sooner rather than later, and render this unnecessary. Or just reenable the SpamBlacklist extension so I can use *that* to prevent the flood. Or just take the wiki offline; but somthing is urgently needed.

Cleaning up the mess

The page Special:NewPages provides a good list of the ~150 pages that need to be deleted. I see you've done some already; any (more) spare time you have to chop a few more would be certainly appreciated. JesseWeinstein 17:28, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Restore link to Russian

FFAQ#Is use X a violation of the Noncommercial clause of the licenses?

"We hope to announce the results of the study in early 2009." Can you update the page? --TarzanASG 05:34, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Done, thanks! --Mike Linksvayer 06:02, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm also done with translation =)) +Ru:FFAQ --TarzanASG 04:26, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Cool, thanks! Added translation link to FFAQ --Mike Linksvayer 07:08, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Browser Plugin

Hello! Can you restore this page? I think, that it's very useful. --TarzanASG 13:54, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Done. Mike Linksvayer 17:53, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Russian translation of Commons Deed

Hello again! Please help me. We want to publish Russian Commons Deed on CC website (on http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.ru) WITHOUT porting of licenses to Russian law. Why not? Esperanto version was published, but Esperanto don't have official status in some country. Russian version is important thing, it not just state language of Russia, it is lingua franca in countries of former USSR like Esperanto. Why not to publish translation? Can you help me? --TarzanASG 17:37, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Hello again! Thanks for contributing to http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/CC/team/ru/ ... I'm looking into this, will report back here ASAP. --Mike Linksvayer 17:43, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Also, http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue667 --Mike Linksvayer 18:02, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Hmm... I don't understand this. =)) Explain to me, Russian translation will be published or not? When? --TarzanASG 18:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
So... what? --TarzanASG 20:48, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! --TarzanASG 13:26, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Why Russian CC0 and CCSearch don't work? --TarzanASG 22:11, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
CC0 probably because latest changes aren't live yet. I believe http://staging.creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/deed.ru ought reflect what is in transifex. I will check with our sysadmin on pushing live Monday. Search, we're about to make some major changes, so translations haven't been updated on the live site for awhile. I'll write back Monday on status of that as well. Thanks! Mike Linksvayer 01:02, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Also don't work Russian License Chooser (text in English, but it translated to Russian), but early Chooser works. --TarzanASG 07:32, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Added info/who to ping to push to production at http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Translating_CC_Deeds#When_Does_The_Server_Get_Updated.3F Mike Linksvayer 22:49, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
But CCSearch translated several month ago, but yet don't works. Maybe it different error, not just updating? --TarzanASG 09:24, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

creativecommons.ru

Hello again! I want create Russian CC website. Can I get access to settings of creativecommons.ru? Or can you make some changes in settings of creativecommons.ru? --TarzanASG 00:13, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Generally such sites are run by a jurisdiction affiliate, but current behavior of http://www.creativecommons.ru/ isn't optimal. I'm going to have to discuss with others in CC. I'll give you an update as well as ETA re above turning on Russian deed translations next week. Thanks for poking on this. --Mike Linksvayer 19:02, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
For now http://creativecommons.ru has been made to redirect to http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Ru:%D0%97%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0 though for some reason www. isn't yet, will soon. Mike Linksvayer 01:18, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Can you give creativecommons.ru to me, not redirect to wiki? I create prototype of Russian page and want that you change NS-servers to ns.narod2.ru and ns1.narod2.ru or add CNAME: "creativecommons.ru IN CNAME creativecommonsru.narod2.ru". --TarzanASG 06:07, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
You can do this? --TarzanASG 21:31, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi, apologies for late response. You should email diane@creativecommmons.org about your interest in running the creativecommons.ru site. Diane runs our affiliate program, including the agreements necessary to allow one to run an official CC jurisdiction website. Mike Linksvayer 22:28, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Unfortunately, "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender". Maybe other contact? --TarzanASG 13:14, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
Oops, typo, extra 'm' in domain, my fault. Try diane@creativecommons.org Mike Linksvayer 22:48, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
Oh, right! --TarzanASG 22:53, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Deletion

Please delete Ru:О творческих общинах, Ru:Лицензии Creative Commons and Ru:Лицензии. --TarzanASG 00:20, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Done. Mike Linksvayer 01:22, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
No. Please restore and delete exactly redirects, not pages. --TarzanASG 05:54, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, should be the way you want now. Mike Linksvayer 06:50, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! --TarzanASG 09:38, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Metrics

Hello! When will update of "Approximate Minimum Total CC Licensed Works"? --TarzanASG 04:51, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello! Probably in April. We're trying to add/corroborate with other data sources, as Yahoo!'s index is probably getting stale. Mike Linksvayer 18:55, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

CC licenses is revocable in Russia

Hello! What do you think that according to Russian law all licenses will revocable is critical problem? Is it serious obstacle for porting of licenses? Will CC in future approve Russian CC licenses without irrevocable term? --TarzanASG 13:53, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

As far as I understand "In no way are any of the following rights affected by the license: The author's moral rights" and it means that moral "right of withdrawal" not conflicted with CC. Yes? CC licenses ported to French law, in which also exists "right of withdrawal". --TarzanASG 11:27, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Hello?! --TarzanASG 11:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi, sorry for late response. I'm not aware of that particular problem. Others having been cited are requirement of an actual signature and inability to make a free license between two profit making enterprises. These may make using a public license in Russia theoretically impossible; I have no idea what their practical import is. I expect porting activity to wind down for now pending discussion of how we address in 4.0, so it is probably a moot point specifically regarding a port. Mike Linksvayer 00:30, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Seal "Approved for Free Cultural Works" font

Hi! could you let us know the name of the Fonts used for making the Green "Approved for Free Cultural Works" seal? I'm thinking of translating it to Spanish.

Thanks in advance. --Wazaraki

Oh, also about Free Cultural Works. And I want to set link to Russian translation instead standard English. Can you do this? --TarzanASG 09:32, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
See File:Approved-for-free-cultural-works.svg for source, please translate and upload translation. TarzanASG, I'm not sure how easy that will be, but I've added a feature request http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue865 --Mike Linksvayer 01:45, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

The only warning !

If you will make this again, then will regret very strongly. Be careful. Offenders which create psevdo licenses having no legal force in any country, will destroyed like cockroaches. You can be sure. You are vandal. You and your friends will pay millions of dollars for the desecration of copyright. This is warning. I know about every piece of this criminal territory, where rights holders lose these millions of dollars. Under my control are the biggest social networks of Russia which related to The Beatles and not only. I can easy tell about crimes which implement here, for big number of different people (a lot of of thousand). Sit quietly and do not move, stupid fool. I hope you understood me. --Grand Master 05:57, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Strange links. Maybe vandalism

Hello! Tsanioke adds strange links. Maybe it is vandalism. --TarzanASG 14:21, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, blocked and rolled back contributions. Mike Linksvayer 14:46, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

"Distribute" - as appropriate

Hello! I want to ask about ""Distribute" means to make available to the public the original and copies of the Work or Adaptation, as appropriate, through sale or other transfer of ownership" from 3.0 licenses. What does "as appropriate" mean in this context? "Any actions, including sale or other transfer" or "only through sale or other transfer"? Russian dictionaries say different. --TarzanASG 12:41, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I think "as appropriate" refers to "Work or Adaptation", meaning the sentence can be read "the Work ... through sale..." or "the Adaptation ... through sale" depending on whether a Work or Adaptation is the thing being distributed - as appropriate to Work or Adaptation. I will check on whether this is correct and leave a note here. Mike Linksvayer 17:15, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
I say not about this. I ask how to translate "as appropriate" at all. According to dictionaries we have 2 versions of translation into Russian because "as appropriate":
1) For "Distribution" people must only sale or must only transfer of ownership. No other variants or alternatives. All other actions is prohibited (well, for "Distribute" term, of course). Free Internet-"Distribution" is also prohibited.
2) For "Distribution" people can sale, transfer of ownership or anything, any actions (any actions "made available to the public the original and copies"). Free Internet-"Distribution" is allowed.
Taking account of Wikipedia, I think 2nd translation is more correct. Am I right? Or distribution of Wikipedia is "Reproduce", and not "Distribute"? --TarzanASG 17:55, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
I don't think "as appropriate" applies to "through sale or other transfer of ownership" at all, but rather the preceding text, so I'm not sure I understand your question. But clearly free Internet distribution is allowed. Mike Linksvayer 18:12, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Ok! I think I understood. If "as appropriate" applies to "Work or Adaptation", then "Distribute" means only material paper hard copy distribution, and "Reproduce" means free Internet distribution. So and we don't have problems. Thanks! --TarzanASG 18:39, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Block User:Ronisarono

Hi,

This guy vandalised CC_Wiki:Translate. I could not find a community discussion page for the wiki, or where to report vandalism. Is there such a page? It should be mentioned on the Wiki Home, then.

And while we’re at it: User:ValerieWalker1526 as well.

HendrikMaryns (talk) 16:47, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Done, thanks. Mike Linksvayer (talk) 17:02, 6 August 2013 (UTC)