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|jurisdictions=Chile, Mexico, Peru, Venezuela, Colombia, El Salvador
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|jurisdictions= Chile, Colombia, El Salvador, Mexico, Peru, Venezuela, and Spain.
|coordinationplan=The team involved in the translation process was formed from a CC latam list that includes all the current cc affiliates and some communities in the process to became affiliates. Although Spain has the same language of the jurisdictions that participated, Latam RC had contacted Spain with no success onto their willing to cooperate on this translation.
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|coordinationplan= Castellano (Spanish) is spoken in Latin America and Spain. The team originally involved in the translation process was from Latin America. CC HQ and RCs facilitated the approach with CC Spain which thereafter joined the translation. Then, a cross-jurisdictional team was in charge of preparing drafts and proposal for overcoming the linguistic differences along the jurisdictions.  
 
|date=2014/04/01
 
|date=2014/04/01
 
|draftdate=2014/04/01
 
|draftdate=2014/04/01
|publicdate=2015/01/28
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|publicdate=2016/02/27
|publicenddate=2014/02/28
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|publicenddate=2016/03/27
|end_date=2015/03/20
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|end_date=2016/04/15
|process=Initially we informed to the CC latam list of our intention of getting involved in the translation process and those who wanted joined the team.
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|process= The team originally involved in the translation was compound through the CC Latam list. Each jurisdiction nominated one representative to be part of a smaller group, in order to make easier the discussions and the decision-making process. This group elaborated a preliminary draft of the translation, and submitted it to CC HQ. Then, CC HQ and the Latam RCs facilitated the approach with CC Spain which subsequently joined the translation. CC Latam and CC Spain agreed on the imperative need of a single legal code. However, the wording differences between the cross-jurisdictional teams made necessary to come up with common solutions. For accomplishing this goal, the translation group was reduced afterwards becoming to be integrated by CC Colombia, CC Venezuela, and CC Spain. The new group came up with a new draft which incorporated proposals for solving the language differences. The proposals were consulted and approved by the initial translation team from Latam, and submitted later for review to CC HQ. CC HQ returned the draft with comments, the translation team evaluated them, and agreed on some. However, the community input is still needed in certain aspects such as the capitalization of the terms defined by the license.  
After finishing the first translation draft and having it approved by the CC-HQ, it will be published using the CC wiki and the local web pages for receiving comments and inputs from the CC list but also from the public. We are thinking about giving one month for the public comment period and twenty days for arranging the inputs and preparing the launching.
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There has been some discussions with teh Spanish CC chapter to try a common translation. there has been some innitial agreements that will be open to discussion during the public discussion time.
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|website= Latest draft text: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DwXltgP8F4053uT_zdzDbX8M-qwMiKTaDdLFfuod3EQ/edit?usp=sharing, Guidelines for public comments (Castellano) https://docs.google.com/document/d/14cObQyJ3Gzuax4h6bupgXqroCZx0WyvEG8_ZPXlFyqI/edit?usp=sharing
|website=https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LLQ8Ksh56KBoqwsbw1fNyYyLSJSBWz0Mf_iJzydQBdo/edit
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|team=CC Venezuela: Marianne Diaz (coordinator), CC El Salvador: Claudia Ortiz, CC Colombia: Luisa Guzmán, CC México: León Sánchez, CC Perú: Rafael Salazar, CC Chile: Juan Carlos Lara.
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|team= CC Chile: Juan Carlos Lara, CC Colombia: Luisa Guzmán, CC El Salvador: Claudia Ortiz, CC Mexico: León Sánchez, CC Peru: Rafael Salazar, CC Venezuela: Marianne Diaz, CC Spain: Ignasi Labastida.
|wordchoice=We did not have to take any particular decision regarding the word choice, that could be interpreted as changes to the English original. In case of doubt in the translation process we took into account previous translations of CC licenses. However, the differences among Latam and Spanish wordings had been part of the discussion and initial agreements had been reached.
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|wordchoice= CC Latam did not have to take any particular decision regarding the word choice that could be interpreted as changes to the English original. In case of doubt in the translation process the team took into account previous translations of CC licenses. However, after CC Spain joined the translation, the wording differences between the cross-jurisdictional teams became the core of the discussion:
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1. Capitalization.
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The English version of the CC 4.0 capitalizes the first letter of the terms defined in the license (for example, every time that the word 'License' appears). However, Castellano is not as flexible as English regarding the rules about what words can be used in capital letters, and in turn, the use of capital letters in Castellano, in order to draw attention to a term in particular, is less common than in English. License translations in other languages have retained the capitalization following the English version, for this reason the team decided to include this issue as part of the public consultation.
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2. Translation of the word "licensed" and similar.
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Although in some countries of Latin America it is common to hear the term "licenciado" (licensed), it does not exist in the dictionary of the Spanish language. Therefore, to avoid the use of Anglicisms the team decided to use linguistic constructs such "material sujeto a la licencia" (licensed material), "otorgante de la licencia"  (licensor), "derechos concedidos en la licencia" (licensed rights). 
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3. “Atribución” y “Reconocimiento”.
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The terms “Atribución” y “Reconocimiento” have traditionally been used to translate the English term "Attribution" in different local adaptations of the licenses. For this reason, and to provide continuity to the understanding of previous legal texts in different latitudes,  the team decided to use the double term "Attribution / Recognition".
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4. Derecho de Autor.
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The term "copyright" is sometimes translated as "Derecho de autor" and sometimes as "derechos de autor", depending on whether it refers to the objective or subjective right. At other times, in which the term refers specifically to the commercial aspect, it can be translated as "intellectual property".
  
 
|affirm=Yes
 
|affirm=Yes
|status=In Progress
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Revision as of 07:10, 27 February 2016

Translation of 4.0 into Legal Tools Translation/4.0/Castellano

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Jurisdictions participating in the translation
Chile, Colombia, El Salvador, Mexico, Peru, Venezuela, and Spain.

Language coordination
Castellano (Spanish) is spoken in Latin America and Spain. The team originally involved in the translation process was from Latin America. CC HQ and RCs facilitated the approach with CC Spain which thereafter joined the translation. Then, a cross-jurisdictional team was in charge of preparing drafts and proposal for overcoming the linguistic differences along the jurisdictions.

Actual timeline

Submission of Translation Proposal to Regional Coordinator: 2014/04/01
Submission of First Draft: {{{actualdraftdate}}}
Start of public comment period: {{{actualpublicdate}}}
End of public comment period: {{{actualpublicenddate}}}
Publication Date: {{{actualend_date}}}

Proposed timeline

Estimated Submission of First Draft: 2014/04/01
Estimated Start of public comment period: 2016/02/27
Estimated End of public comment period: 2016/03/27
Estimated Publication Date: 2016/04/15


Translation process
The team originally involved in the translation was compound through the CC Latam list. Each jurisdiction nominated one representative to be part of a smaller group, in order to make easier the discussions and the decision-making process. This group elaborated a preliminary draft of the translation, and submitted it to CC HQ. Then, CC HQ and the Latam RCs facilitated the approach with CC Spain which subsequently joined the translation. CC Latam and CC Spain agreed on the imperative need of a single legal code. However, the wording differences between the cross-jurisdictional teams made necessary to come up with common solutions. For accomplishing this goal, the translation group was reduced afterwards becoming to be integrated by CC Colombia, CC Venezuela, and CC Spain. The new group came up with a new draft which incorporated proposals for solving the language differences. The proposals were consulted and approved by the initial translation team from Latam, and submitted later for review to CC HQ. CC HQ returned the draft with comments, the translation team evaluated them, and agreed on some. However, the community input is still needed in certain aspects such as the capitalization of the terms defined by the license.

Website: Latest draft text: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DwXltgP8F4053uT_zdzDbX8M-qwMiKTaDdLFfuod3EQ/edit?usp=sharing, Guidelines for public comments (Castellano) https://docs.google.com/document/d/14cObQyJ3Gzuax4h6bupgXqroCZx0WyvEG8_ZPXlFyqI/edit?usp=sharing

Team
CC Chile: Juan Carlos Lara, CC Colombia: Luisa Guzmán, CC El Salvador: Claudia Ortiz, CC Mexico: León Sánchez, CC Peru: Rafael Salazar, CC Venezuela: Marianne Diaz, CC Spain: Ignasi Labastida.

Word choice
CC Latam did not have to take any particular decision regarding the word choice that could be interpreted as changes to the English original. In case of doubt in the translation process the team took into account previous translations of CC licenses. However, after CC Spain joined the translation, the wording differences between the cross-jurisdictional teams became the core of the discussion:

1. Capitalization. The English version of the CC 4.0 capitalizes the first letter of the terms defined in the license (for example, every time that the word 'License' appears). However, Castellano is not as flexible as English regarding the rules about what words can be used in capital letters, and in turn, the use of capital letters in Castellano, in order to draw attention to a term in particular, is less common than in English. License translations in other languages have retained the capitalization following the English version, for this reason the team decided to include this issue as part of the public consultation.

2. Translation of the word "licensed" and similar. Although in some countries of Latin America it is common to hear the term "licenciado" (licensed), it does not exist in the dictionary of the Spanish language. Therefore, to avoid the use of Anglicisms the team decided to use linguistic constructs such "material sujeto a la licencia" (licensed material), "otorgante de la licencia" (licensor), "derechos concedidos en la licencia" (licensed rights).

3. “Atribución” y “Reconocimiento”. The terms “Atribución” y “Reconocimiento” have traditionally been used to translate the English term "Attribution" in different local adaptations of the licenses. For this reason, and to provide continuity to the understanding of previous legal texts in different latitudes, the team decided to use the double term "Attribution / Recognition".

4. Derecho de Autor. The term "copyright" is sometimes translated as "Derecho de autor" and sometimes as "derechos de autor", depending on whether it refers to the objective or subjective right. At other times, in which the term refers specifically to the commercial aspect, it can be translated as "intellectual property".

Status (as of)
In Progress


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