User talk:Master grand

Uploaded file

Hi Master grand, please don't upload to the wiki files that are not used in the wiki contents. Thanks -- Hamilton Abreu 21:33, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Specifically, files should be uploaded when they are necessary for the pages of the wiki. Otherwise, the wiki should not be used as a file repository, to host files, or to share content. On page Publish you can find details of several sites that do host content of different types for the purpose of sharing it, and allow you to easily license your content with a CC license as well. -- Hamilton Abreu 02:13, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by "create a wiki project here", so please share your plans with someone before investing time on it. -- Hamilton Abreu 19:04, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Second upload

To be clear, the first file was out of scope and was deleted. The files uploaded today are out of scope and I will have to delete them. Please don't upload any more files that are not used in CC wiki. The wiki is for documenting the Creative Commons licenses and their use, only. I don't know how to make this any clearer. If still in doubt, please read Is Creative Commons building a database of licensed content?. -- Hamilton Abreu 04:13, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

The page ART OF THE BEATLES IN THE GLOBAL LIBRARY is fine. It is an entry listed in Content_Directories, just like all of these. Its purpose is to let people know that they can find CC licensed content on site http://beatles1.ru/. And ALL CONTENT should be in that site, not here in the wiki. So please put the files on the site. -- Hamilton Abreu 04:40, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

I will take care of it, don't worry. -- Hamilton Abreu 04:47, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

     Okey, i understand. They are already there. For attribution of the works of
     art. For example: http://beatles1.ru/with_the_beatles_album_1963/

Well, I'm not sure about what you're trying to do. Are you trying to do the attribution for the Beatles albums? -- Hamilton Abreu 12:39, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand. Using what kind of license? The site claims that "The collection is created in strict accordance with the doctrine of "fair use" under the U.S. copyright law.". So, the Beatle's works are not being used under any license whatsoever and certainly not under a license that requires attribution.

But that is probably irrelevant, because what the site does is probably not "fair use" in the first place. Besides, I very much doubt that a site probably hosted in Russia, can appeal to a law from the US, in order to use a work probably published in Britain. -- Hamilton Abreu 23:14, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Well, if any of that was legal it probably wouldn't need "2 ways for insurance". You keep referring to fair use as licensing: it is not. "Fair use" under the U.S. copyright law, is only valid under U.S. law, not in Russia or elsewhere. And as far as I can see, the site does not make "fair use" of anything. It's just pirating. The site's author should read up on copyright at Commons:Licensing very carefully, including the section on copyright law in Great Britain. -- Hamilton Abreu 03:57, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

The Creative Commons licences can only be used by the holders of copyright over the licenced works, and no one else. The Beatles heritage belongs to whoever holds the copyright over the Beatles works, until either the copyright expires or the copyright holder releases the works on different terms. Until then, everyone wishing to enjoy the copyrighted works should acquire them. Nothing else would be fair, if it goes against the coyright holder's wishes. Of course I like the Beatles. -- Hamilton Abreu 05:06, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

If you're a lawyer by training then I have to assume you know what you're doing. -- Hamilton Abreu 09:37, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Well, I was trying to alert you to possible issues that I see in the site and in what you were doing. But I haven't looked in detail at the site, or at what works you're attributing and where they come from, and so on. Since you're a lawyer, I will stop trying to alert you to those issues. -- Hamilton Abreu 10:25, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry about the "pirating" thing. To be precise, instead of "It's just pirating" I should have said "It's just infringement of copyright". By the way, can you please send me links to the things at YouTube and Viemo, that you are referring to? -- Hamilton Abreu 20:52, 14 July 2011 (UTC)