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		<title>Nathan Yergler at 00:17, 19 April 2010</title>
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		<title>Nathan Yergler at 19:46, 27 January 2010</title>
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		<title>Nathan Yergler: Created page with '=== OER search and discovery meeting === ==== July 10, 2009 ==== ==== [http://www.flickr.com/photos/cclearn/sets/72157621380443915/ Pictures] ====  === Round table discussion of …'</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;=== OER search and discovery meeting === ==== July 10, 2009 ==== ==== [http://www.flickr.com/photos/cclearn/sets/72157621380443915/ Pictures] ====  === Round table discussion of …&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;=== OER search and discovery meeting ===&lt;br /&gt;
==== July 10, 2009 ====&lt;br /&gt;
==== [http://www.flickr.com/photos/cclearn/sets/72157621380443915/ Pictures] ====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Round table discussion of OER search and discovery needs, specs, considerations: ===&lt;br /&gt;
* OER are diverse in form and origin.&lt;br /&gt;
* OER are difficult to define universally.&lt;br /&gt;
* Are metadata sufficient to improve search, or are there bigger issues at play?&lt;br /&gt;
* Are we addressing ''educational search'' generally, or are we only addressing ''OER search''?&lt;br /&gt;
* What is the user experience that informs any search solution?&lt;br /&gt;
* There is a lingo issue - teachers want to use OER but don't realize that's what they want.&lt;br /&gt;
* How much should we expect users to understand in order to use the tool effectively?&lt;br /&gt;
* How do we get users to contribute to improving the information?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If we build a search engine, what type of engine do we want (what categories of engine are there)?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Can we create a publication protocol for OER-creators to enhance discoverability?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Are there schemas for illustrating permissions associated with resources which are easy to understand and easy to implement (e.g., traffic light)?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== [http://discovered.creativecommons.org/search/ DiscoverEd] demo: ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Built to illustrate first principles (above).&lt;br /&gt;
* Key was to presume nothing about the quality/extent of the data or the specific nature of the OER in question. Open to any self-described ''curators'' of educational resources.&lt;br /&gt;
* Is it a problem that it also archives non-CC-licensed works?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== [http://www.globe-info.org/ GLOBE] demo: ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://lreforschools.eun.org/LRE-Portal/Index.iface LRE]: interface for school teachers&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://ariadne.cs.kuleuven.be/AriadneFinder/ ariadne]: facetted search&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://portal.mace-project.eu/ MACE]: tabletop and other visual interfaces&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== [http://oerrecommender.org OER recommender] demo: ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Take the tools to the content, rather than waiting for the content-creators to make the content available to the tools.&lt;br /&gt;
* Greasemonkey script.&lt;br /&gt;
* How do users understand this ''service''? In Cnx, there is a problem with users presuming that the author of the referring resource is the person who created the related resources.&lt;br /&gt;
* Next iteration: Folksemantic.com&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We also briefly discussed some other tools that are using similar developments, such as Google Rich Snippets, Yahoo BOSS, and others. These various tools should share the same databases.... a quick discussion led to some agreement that this coding was sane and achievable within a year, with some additional resources.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Attempt to categorize the different ''flavors'' of search tools that are out there: ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Altavista-like&lt;br /&gt;
* Look at the content of the resource in isolation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Google-like&lt;br /&gt;
* Look at content in isolation but add link structure.&lt;br /&gt;
* Low-cost for data extraction.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Facebook-like&lt;br /&gt;
* Leverages identified social interaction (people known to the user).&lt;br /&gt;
* Built on trusted relationships.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Youtube-like&lt;br /&gt;
* Leverages comments from people unknown to the user.&lt;br /&gt;
* Really easy to contribute information.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Google-scholar-like&lt;br /&gt;
* Content is published by specific entities (curators).&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Curation'' occurs prior to contribution.&lt;br /&gt;
* Uses structured metadata.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wikipedia&lt;br /&gt;
* Remixing occurs on site. Drives to a single outcome.&lt;br /&gt;
* Benefits from distributed collaboration on search queries.&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Curation'' occurs after contribution.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Can we set some initial priorities and plans of action? ===&lt;br /&gt;
# Minimum publishing style guide&lt;br /&gt;
# Registry linking&lt;br /&gt;
# Catalog of enhanced features (e.g., new metadata fields)&lt;br /&gt;
# Promotion/Adoption&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Looking ahead: ===&lt;br /&gt;
What UI is needed to get integration into existing OER sites?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Toggle between ''my site'' versus ''all OER''.&lt;br /&gt;
* Plug-in for Moodle, Sakai, LAMS, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
* Basically, how do we get the tools of Open Ed into the workspaces people use every day?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== List of major production tools for educational resources and possible contacts: ===&lt;br /&gt;
'Note: In most cases, having some initial code in hand will help a lot.'&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Microsoft&lt;br /&gt;
** see [http://www2.cs.kuleuven.be/~hmdb/alocom/ ALOCOM] for ARIADNE plugin&lt;br /&gt;
* LAMS&lt;br /&gt;
** see [http://www.screencast.com/t/rpxpbw1xU screencast] of GLOBE plugin&lt;br /&gt;
* Moodle&lt;br /&gt;
** see [http://www.ariadne-eu.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&amp;amp;Itemid=78 ARIADNE plugin]&lt;br /&gt;
* Sakai&lt;br /&gt;
* Blackboard&lt;br /&gt;
** see also Vandepitte, P., Van Rentergem, L., Duval, E., Ternier, S. &amp;amp; Neven, F. (2003). Bridging an LCMS and an LMS: a Blackboard Building Block for the ARIADNE Knowledge Pool System. In D. Lassner &amp;amp; C. McNaught (Eds.), Proceedings of World Conference on Educational Multimedia, Hypermedia and Telecommunications 2003 (pp. 423-424). Chesapeake, VA: AACE. Retrieved from http://www.editlib.org/p/13794&lt;br /&gt;
* Open Office&lt;br /&gt;
* Google docs&lt;br /&gt;
* Wordpress&lt;br /&gt;
* Mediawiki&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Other places we should target for the search integration: ===&lt;br /&gt;
* School web sites&lt;br /&gt;
* Professional society pages&lt;br /&gt;
* Government and district sites&lt;br /&gt;
* Library websites&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Stages of action: ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Would you be interested?&lt;br /&gt;
* Can we get some help if we have a detailed technical question in your environment?&lt;br /&gt;
* What would it take to integrate?&lt;br /&gt;
* Letter (tweet) of support?&lt;br /&gt;
* Solicit external funding?&lt;br /&gt;
* Deliver.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Who should be part of this effort? ===&lt;br /&gt;
How do we identify those orgs that want us to represent them in this space?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Two levels of commitment: &lt;br /&gt;
# the resources are included, or&lt;br /&gt;
# the organization involved is committed to development in this space.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== We need to develop a statement of support: ===&lt;br /&gt;
Some sort of statement seems necessary. Perhaps a paragraph that captures the goals of OER search/discovery and why orgs would be interested in having such a tool baked into the tools that people actually use. Should then get signatures.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Can enhance OpenEd (opened.creativecommons.org) site to host.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Can we adopt a common set of metrics? ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;#s of resources (divided by attribute).&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;#s of people using.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;#s of downloads.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;#s of actual implementations.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Others?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Additional questions for the group: ===&lt;br /&gt;
* What research is out there about the barriers regarding search?&lt;br /&gt;
* To what extent do teachers actually search for things on the Web?&lt;br /&gt;
* What orgs should be involved in the broader effort?&lt;br /&gt;
** OCWC&lt;br /&gt;
** Merlot&lt;br /&gt;
** Globe&lt;br /&gt;
** ccLearn&lt;br /&gt;
** ??&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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