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User talk:Mike Linksvayer

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HendrikMaryns: /* Block User:Ronisarono */

Test. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 16:25, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

== + Russian ==

Please.

# [[Talk:CcWiki:About#+ Russian]]
# [[Ru:ЧАВО]]
# [[Ru:О чем нужно подумать, прежде чем лицензировать свою работу под CC-лицензиями]]
--[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 16:14, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

:Links added. However, could you remove the comma from the 'Before Licensing' translation article title? Commas are used to separate translations, which is probably suboptimal. Thanks! [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 00:11, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
:: 1) Ok. [[Ru:Перед лицензированием]]. 2) Can I to post in this wiki the translation of pages of main site, for example, translation of page http://creativecommons.org/about/? If the answer is "i can", how to name translated pages ("Ru:About" or "Ru:О проекте", etc)? Just site of "Creative Commons Russia" inactive since mid-2007 and almost always the site is not working. 3) Is it possible to add [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgXnBXr-8PY this video] on some Creative Commons hosting (for example, http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/)? 4) Can I to post in this wiki the translation of full texts of CC-licenses (now it is [http://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F:Creative_Commons here])? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 17:22, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
:::1) Thanks! 2) You can. I'd say use a Russian title that describes the content, so probably "About CC" in Russian. 3) http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue322 4) Prefer you don't, there isn't an official Russian translation of the legal texts and we'd be sensitive about giving the impression there is. Regarding this and a CC Russia website, I could put you in touch with the person trying to get CC Russia started and licenses ported.[[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 03:02, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
:::: Very well! 4) [http://www.sybski.ru/ Syb Groeneveld]? I will write him e-mail. 5) Why don't work http://translate.creativecommons.org/ru/? I translated all the phrases on http://translate.creativecommons.org/ru/, but the page still shows "679 untranslated words". And how to translate others projects as it is done on the page http://translate.creativecommons.org/de/? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 11:11, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::4) Yes, Syb is the person. 5) http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue323 [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 14:10, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

== Pages to delete ==

I noticed you've done some deletions recently, according to [[Special:Log/delete|the log]], so I thought I'd notify you of some more pages that need that treatment. You can find them in [[:Category:Pages to be deleted]] (which I just created). Thanks! [[User:JesseWeinstein|JesseWeinstein]] 00:39, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

== Disabling editing ==

I wanted to let you know that I've now blocked, via the [[MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist]] the possibility for non-administrators to save pages containing any URLs that end with any of the major GTLDs (.com, .org, .net, .info), as a last ditch effort against the tide of spam we've been getting. This has the side effect of severely impeding editing by non-administrators, which we would rather not do. I think there are some more targeted solutions available, but I don't have access to them as a mere administrator, so I wanted to bring the situation to your attention. I'll keep watching for crap to clean up. Good luck. [[User:JesseWeinstein|JesseWeinstein]] 17:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks! We're looking into ways of throttling the bogus acct creation and subsequent spamming we're seeing. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 17:53, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::Great. Let me know (via my talk page preferably, or email otherwise) if I can help in any way. [[User:JesseWeinstein|JesseWeinstein]] 05:21, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
::If it is feasible to install the AbuseFilter extension, that is quite flexible enough to allow me to block the current tactics of the spammers... But upgrading MediaWiki to support it might be a large hassle... [[User:JesseWeinstein|JesseWeinstein]] 07:39, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

For the moment, would you just shut off account creation completely -- and tell people to email if they want an account? That would at least stop the deluge -- at this rate, it's not going to be feasible to clean up if it continues... [[User:JesseWeinstein|JesseWeinstein]] 07:37, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
::This can be done (albeit inefficiently) by blocking all ~65,000 /16 ranges; I've done the first three as a demonstration here: [[Special:BlockList]]; I could hack up a script to do the rest of them if necessary. PLEASE, do something sooner rather than later, and render this unnecessary. Or just reenable the SpamBlacklist extension so I can use *that* to prevent the flood. Or just take the wiki offline; but somthing is urgently needed.
==Cleaning up the mess==
The page [http://wiki.creativecommons.org/index.php?title=Special:NewPages&limit=500&namespace=2 Special:NewPages] provides a good list of the ~150 pages that need to be deleted. I see you've done some already; any (more) spare time you have to chop a few more would be certainly appreciated. [[User:JesseWeinstein|JesseWeinstein]] 17:28, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

== Restore link to Russian ==

* Hello. Why [http://wiki.creativecommons.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=next&oldid=22795 was removed link to the Russian]? Please, restore link to Russian. --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 17:59, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
** Must have been an incomplete copy/paste, I've restored it, thanks! [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 19:45, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

== [[FFAQ#Is use X a violation of the Noncommercial clause of the licenses?]] ==

"We hope to announce the results of the study in early 2009." Can you update the page? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 05:34, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
:Done, thanks! --[[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 06:02, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
:: I'm also done with translation =)) +[[Ru:FFAQ]] --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 04:26, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Cool, thanks! Added translation link to [[FFAQ]] --[[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 07:08, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

== [[Browser Plugin]] ==

Hello! Can you restore this page? I think, that it's very useful. --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 13:54, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
:Done. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 17:53, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

== Russian translation of Commons Deed ==

Hello again! Please help me. We want to publish Russian Commons Deed on CC website (on http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.ru) WITHOUT porting of licenses to Russian law. Why not? Esperanto version was published, but Esperanto don't have official status in some country. Russian version is important thing, it not just state language of Russia, it is lingua franca in countries of former USSR like Esperanto. Why not to publish translation? Can you help me? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 17:37, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
:Hello again! Thanks for contributing to http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/CC/team/ru/ ... I'm looking into this, will report back here ASAP. --[[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 17:43, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
:Also, http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue667 --[[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 18:02, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
:: Hmm... I don't understand this. =)) Explain to me, Russian translation will be published or not? When? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 18:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
:: So... what? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 20:48, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
:: Thanks! --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 13:26, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
:: Why Russian [http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/deed.ru CC0] and [http://search.creativecommons.org/?lang=ru CCSearch] don't work? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 22:11, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
:::CC0 probably because latest changes aren't live yet. I believe http://staging.creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/deed.ru ought reflect what is in transifex. I will check with our sysadmin on pushing live Monday. Search, we're about to make some major changes, so translations haven't been updated on the live site for awhile. I'll write back Monday on status of that as well. Thanks! [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 01:02, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
:::: Also don't work [http://creativecommons.org/choose/?lang=ru Russian License Chooser] (text in English, but it translated to Russian), but early Chooser works. --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 07:32, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::::: Added info/who to ping to push to production at http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Translating_CC_Deeds#When_Does_The_Server_Get_Updated.3F [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 22:49, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::: But [http://search.creativecommons.org/?lang=ru CCSearch] translated several month ago, but yet don't works. Maybe it different error, not just updating? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 09:24, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

== creativecommons.ru ==

Hello again! I want create Russian CC website. Can I get access to settings of creativecommons.ru? Or can you make some changes in settings of creativecommons.ru? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 00:13, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
:Generally such sites are run by a jurisdiction affiliate, but current behavior of http://www.creativecommons.ru/ isn't optimal. I'm going to have to discuss with others in CC. I'll give you an update as well as ETA re above turning on Russian deed translations next week. Thanks for poking on this. --[[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 19:02, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
::For now http://creativecommons.ru has been made to redirect to http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Ru:%D0%97%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0 though for some reason www. isn't yet, will soon. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 01:18, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::: Can you give creativecommons.ru to me, not redirect to wiki? I create [http://creativecommonsru.narod.ru/ prototype of Russian page] and want that you change NS-servers to ns.narod2.ru and ns1.narod2.ru or add CNAME: "creativecommons.ru IN CNAME creativecommonsru.narod2.ru". --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 06:07, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::: You can do this? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 21:31, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
:::: Hi, apologies for late response. You should email diane@creativecommmons.org about your interest in running the creativecommons.ru site. Diane runs our affiliate program, including the agreements necessary to allow one to run an official CC jurisdiction website. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 22:28, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
::::: Unfortunately, "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender". Maybe other contact? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 13:14, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::: Oops, typo, extra 'm' in domain, my fault. Try diane@creativecommons.org [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 22:48, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::: Oh, right! --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 22:53, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

== Deletion ==

Please delete [[Ru:О творческих общинах]], [[Ru:Лицензии Creative Commons]] and [[Ru:Лицензии]]. --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 00:20, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
:Done. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 01:22, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
:: No. Please restore and delete exactly redirects, not pages. --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 05:54, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::: Sorry, should be the way you want now. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 06:50, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
:::: Thanks! --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 09:38, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

== [[Metrics]] ==

Hello! When will update of "Approximate Minimum Total CC Licensed Works"? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 04:51, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
:Hello! Probably in April. We're trying to add/corroborate with other data sources, as Yahoo!'s index is probably getting stale. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 18:55, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

== CC licenses is revocable in Russia ==

Hello! What do you think that according to Russian law all licenses will revocable is critical problem? Is it serious obstacle for porting of licenses? Will CC in future approve Russian CC licenses without irrevocable term? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 13:53, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
: As far as I understand "[http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.en In no way are any of the following rights affected by the license: The author's moral rights]" and it means that moral "right of withdrawal" not conflicted with CC. Yes? CC licenses ported to French law, in which also [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_copyright_law#Moral_rights exists "right of withdrawal"]. --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 11:27, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
:: Hello?! --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 11:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:: Hi, sorry for late response. I'm not aware of that particular problem. Others having been cited are requirement of an actual signature and inability to make a free license between two profit making enterprises. These may make using a public license in Russia theoretically impossible; I have no idea what their practical import is. I expect porting activity to wind down for now pending discussion of how we address in 4.0, so it is probably a moot point specifically regarding a port. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 00:30, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

== Seal "Approved for Free Cultural Works" font ==

Hi! could you let us know the name of the Fonts used for making the Green "Approved for Free Cultural Works" seal? I'm thinking of translating it to Spanish.

Thanks in advance. --[[User:Wazaraki|Wazaraki]]

: Oh, also about Free Cultural Works. And I want to set link to [http://freedomdefined.org/Definition/Ru Russian translation] instead standard English. Can you do this? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 09:32, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

: See File:Approved-for-free-cultural-works.svg for source, please translate and upload translation. TarzanASG, I'm not sure how easy that will be, but I've added a feature request http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue865 --[[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 01:45, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

== The only warning ! ==

If you will make this again, then will regret very strongly. Be careful. Offenders which create psevdo licenses having no legal force in any country, will destroyed like cockroaches. You can be sure. You are vandal. You and your friends will pay millions of dollars for the desecration of copyright. This is warning. I know about every piece of this criminal territory, where rights holders lose these millions of dollars. Under my control are the biggest social networks of Russia which related to The Beatles and not only. I can easy tell about crimes which implement here, for big number of different people (a lot of of thousand). Sit quietly and do not move, stupid fool. I hope you understood me. --[[User:Master grand|Grand Master]] 05:57, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

== Strange links. Maybe vandalism ==

Hello! [[Special:Contributions/Tsanioke|Tsanioke]] adds strange links. Maybe it is vandalism. --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 14:21, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
:Thanks, blocked and rolled back contributions. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 14:46, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

== "Distribute" - as appropriate ==

Hello! I want to ask about "''"Distribute" means to make available to the public the original and copies of the Work or Adaptation, as appropriate, through sale or other transfer of ownership''" from 3.0 licenses. What does "as appropriate" mean in this context? "'''Any''' actions, '''including''' sale or other transfer" or "'''only''' through sale or other transfer"? Russian dictionaries say different. --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 12:41, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
:Hi, I think "as appropriate" refers to "Work or Adaptation", meaning the sentence can be read "the Work ... through sale..." or "the Adaptation ... through sale" depending on whether a Work or Adaptation is the thing being distributed - as appropriate to Work or Adaptation. I will check on whether this is correct and leave a note here. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 17:15, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
:: I say not about this. I ask how to translate "as appropriate" at all. According to dictionaries we have 2 versions of translation into Russian because "as appropriate":
:: 1) For "Distribution" people '''must''' only sale or '''must''' only transfer of ownership. No other variants or alternatives. All other actions is prohibited (well, for "Distribute" term, of course). '''Free Internet-"Distribution" is also prohibited'''.
:: 2) For "Distribution" people can sale, transfer of ownership or '''anything, any actions''' (any actions "made available to the public the original and copies"). '''Free Internet-"Distribution" is allowed'''.
:: Taking account of Wikipedia, I think 2nd translation is more correct. Am I right? Or distribution of Wikipedia is "Reproduce", and not "Distribute"? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 17:55, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
:::I don't think "as appropriate" applies to "through sale or other transfer of ownership" at all, but rather the preceding text, so I'm not sure I understand your question. But clearly free Internet distribution is allowed. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 18:12, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
:::: Ok! I think I understood. If "as appropriate" applies to "Work or Adaptation", then "Distribute" means only material paper hard copy distribution, and "Reproduce" means free Internet distribution. So and we don't have problems. Thanks! --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 18:39, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

== Block [[User:Ronisarono]] ==

Hi,

This guy vandalised [[CC_Wiki:Translate]]. I could not find a community discussion page for the wiki, or where to report vandalism. Is there such a page? It should be mentioned on the Wiki Home, then.

And while we’re at it: [[User:ValerieWalker1526]] as well.

[[User:HendrikMaryns|HendrikMaryns]] ([[User talk:HendrikMaryns|talk]]) 16:47, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

CCWiki:Translate

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HendrikMaryns: Undo revision 67614 by Ronisarono (talk)

This is a multilingual wiki; content can be translated into multiple languages regardless of the original language.

== Overview ==

This article describes how to go about translating virtually any page in the CC wiki. In order for translations to be organized, up to date, and associated with the correct source page, certain steps need to be taken. This is a brief overview of the steps required to translate a page ''correctly''. For more detailed information about special rules and exceptions, please see the full documentation below, starting at subsection [[#Preparation | Preparation]].

The first step in translating a page is, obviously, to select which page you would like to translate, and to note the title of that page. You then need to create a new page with the title translated and prefixed by the [http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:SupportedLanguages language code] for your language. As an example, let's say you would like to translate the [[Frequently_Asked_Questions | CC FAQ]] to Spanish. The page's title is '''Frequently_Asked_Questions''', so the page title of your translation could be, for example, '''Es:Preguntas_Más_Frecuentes'''. You then create this new page and add your translation of the FAQ to it, so that it looks identical to the original page, but translated. For detailed (and ''important''!) information on naming a translated page please see subsection [[#Naming Translated Pages | Naming Translated Pages]] below.

Once you have completed your page translation, how will other people find it? This is accomplished by adding a small bit of markup to the bottom of both the original page ''and'' your translation. See subsection [[#Translate | Translate]] below to find out what markup must be entered on each page. When done correctly, the original page should contain a box at the bottom of the page indicating which languages the page has been translated to. Additionally, each translated page should contain a box at the bottom of the page linking to the original source of the translation. In this way, it should be easy for anyone to know what translations exist, and to link back and forth between the original page and the translation(s) of that page.

The text in these boxes can be translated, and this is recommended, though it is not 100% necessary in order to translate. To learn how to translate these boxes see the section [[#Preparation | Preparation]] below.

== Preparation ==

The following templates are used to manage translations in the pages that are written in English:

* [[Template:Translations]]
* [[Template:Translated From]]

There is a third, [[Template:Diff since trans]], which is a support template used by the second, and not meant for general use. They are language interfaces that provide, to the real code behind, strings to be displayed to users, in English.

If these templates have not yet been translated to your language, you should translate the '''three''' of them first (see next section for how to do this — also see the European Portuguese (Pt:) versions of the templates for a practical example; you can, inclusively, translate the parameter names of the templates).

Once these have been translated to your language, you should use the translated versions on all pages written in your language, instead of the English ones. Generally, the English templates should be used in the pages in English, the German translations in the pages in German, the Hebrew translations in the pages in Hebrew, and so forth.

== Translating ==

Follow these steps to translate an article. For the purposes of illustration, the article is called '''Example Content''' and we will translate the article to Spanish.

* Create a new article called '''Es:Contenido del Ejemplo'''. The contents should be a translation of '''Example Content'''. Note that the page name is made up of the language code and the translated title, separated by a colon (:). See ''[[#Naming Translated Pages|Naming Translated Pages]]'' below for additional details
* To the bottom of page '''Es:Contenido del Ejemplo''' add the Spanish equivalent of:
<pre>
{{Translated From
| source = Example Content
| rev = <revision ID of page Example Content>
}}
</pre>
* To the bottom of '''Example Content''' add:
<pre>
{{Translations
| articles = Es:Contenido del Ejemplo
}}
</pre>
:'''''Note:''' To get the <code><revision ID of page '''Example Content'''></code>, go to page '''Example Content''' and place the pointer over the link "Permanent link" at the top of the page; the revision ID will appear at the end of the URL near the bottom of your browser. It is also available from the history of the page, placing the pointer over the link to the last revision. Is is also shown in the languages box, in the link to the source language.''

:'''''Note:''' If an article is available in more than two languages, separate the translated article names with commas in template <code>Translations</code>.''

:'''''Note:''' For pages outside the main namespace, the namespace must always be specified at the beginning of the name.''

A languages box appears at the bottom of each article. The box lists all languages in which the article is available. On translation pages, the box has a special behaviour: one of two indicators will appear after the name of the language of the page:

* A ✔ if the latest revision of '''Example Content''' is equal to the revision ID supplied in parameter <code>rev</code>. This indicates that '''Es:Contenido del Ejemplo''' is up-to-date, since it is based on the latest version of the source page.
* A "(synchronise)" link if the latest revision of '''Example Content''' is different from the revision ID supplied in parameter <code>rev</code>. This indicates that '''Es:Contenido del Ejemplo''' is outdated. Clicking the "(synchronise)" link produces a list of the changes made to '''Example Content''' since it was translated. To bring the translation into synch again, incorporate those changes in '''Es:Contenido del Ejemplo''' and update the revision ID to the latest one.

Eventually you will be able to read the entire wiki in your language.

==Ronisarono, Translated Pages ==

The page name of pages outside the main namespace must be preceeded by RONISYAHRONY" (see subsection [[#Namespace Prefix|Namespace Prefix]] below for details).
When RONISARONO translated page, the original page name should be translated.

To distinguish between identically spelt translated titles in different bahasa, language code prefixes are used (see subsection [[#bahasa Code Prefix|bahasa Code Prefix]] below for details).

The Bcode prefix should be

== Categorisation of pages ==

There are a couple of issues with the categorisation of pages.

By default, in [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Categories categories], the pages are sorted according to their full name, ''including'' the namespace. All pages in the "Category:" namespace, for example, will be listed in categories under the heading "C".

Additionally, since we prefix page names with the language code, even in the main namespace there will be sorting issues. For example, by default all pages in the main namespace written in German will be listed in categories under the heading "D", because all pages in German start with "De:".

To overcome these limitations, the translation templates automatically assign a default [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Categories#Sort_key sort key] to pages, which causes the page to be sorted under the part of its name ''after'' the language code. For most purposes this will be sufficient and users won't need to worry about categorisation (check [[Template:Sort key of page]] for precise details). [http://tractorgamesguide.com Tractor Games]

If, however, the default sort key ever turns out to be incorrect, it can be overriden as usual by:

<pre>
[[Category:Name|Sort key override]]
</pre>

on each category, or by a separate:

<pre>
{{DEFAULTSORT:Sort key override}}
</pre>

which applies to all the categories of the page. In principle, this should only be necessary when MediaWiki's handling of the initial caracters of the default sort key is undesired. For example, MediaWiki groups pages starting by A, À, Á, Ä, etc., under separate headers, instead of grouping all such pages under the heading A. If the name of a page (after the language prefix) starts by one such character, you may need to override the key.

{{Translations|
| articles = CC Wiki:Pt:Tradução, CC Wiki:Ksh:Övversäze, CC Wiki:de:Übersetzen
}}

[[Category:Translation Project]]

User talk:Mike Linksvayer

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HendrikMaryns: /* Block User:Ronisarono */ new section

Test. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 16:25, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

== + Russian ==

Please.

# [[Talk:CcWiki:About#+ Russian]]
# [[Ru:ЧАВО]]
# [[Ru:О чем нужно подумать, прежде чем лицензировать свою работу под CC-лицензиями]]
--[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 16:14, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

:Links added. However, could you remove the comma from the 'Before Licensing' translation article title? Commas are used to separate translations, which is probably suboptimal. Thanks! [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 00:11, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
:: 1) Ok. [[Ru:Перед лицензированием]]. 2) Can I to post in this wiki the translation of pages of main site, for example, translation of page http://creativecommons.org/about/? If the answer is "i can", how to name translated pages ("Ru:About" or "Ru:О проекте", etc)? Just site of "Creative Commons Russia" inactive since mid-2007 and almost always the site is not working. 3) Is it possible to add [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgXnBXr-8PY this video] on some Creative Commons hosting (for example, http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/)? 4) Can I to post in this wiki the translation of full texts of CC-licenses (now it is [http://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F:Creative_Commons here])? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 17:22, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
:::1) Thanks! 2) You can. I'd say use a Russian title that describes the content, so probably "About CC" in Russian. 3) http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue322 4) Prefer you don't, there isn't an official Russian translation of the legal texts and we'd be sensitive about giving the impression there is. Regarding this and a CC Russia website, I could put you in touch with the person trying to get CC Russia started and licenses ported.[[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 03:02, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
:::: Very well! 4) [http://www.sybski.ru/ Syb Groeneveld]? I will write him e-mail. 5) Why don't work http://translate.creativecommons.org/ru/? I translated all the phrases on http://translate.creativecommons.org/ru/, but the page still shows "679 untranslated words". And how to translate others projects as it is done on the page http://translate.creativecommons.org/de/? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 11:11, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::4) Yes, Syb is the person. 5) http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue323 [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 14:10, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

== Pages to delete ==

I noticed you've done some deletions recently, according to [[Special:Log/delete|the log]], so I thought I'd notify you of some more pages that need that treatment. You can find them in [[:Category:Pages to be deleted]] (which I just created). Thanks! [[User:JesseWeinstein|JesseWeinstein]] 00:39, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

== Disabling editing ==

I wanted to let you know that I've now blocked, via the [[MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist]] the possibility for non-administrators to save pages containing any URLs that end with any of the major GTLDs (.com, .org, .net, .info), as a last ditch effort against the tide of spam we've been getting. This has the side effect of severely impeding editing by non-administrators, which we would rather not do. I think there are some more targeted solutions available, but I don't have access to them as a mere administrator, so I wanted to bring the situation to your attention. I'll keep watching for crap to clean up. Good luck. [[User:JesseWeinstein|JesseWeinstein]] 17:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks! We're looking into ways of throttling the bogus acct creation and subsequent spamming we're seeing. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 17:53, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::Great. Let me know (via my talk page preferably, or email otherwise) if I can help in any way. [[User:JesseWeinstein|JesseWeinstein]] 05:21, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
::If it is feasible to install the AbuseFilter extension, that is quite flexible enough to allow me to block the current tactics of the spammers... But upgrading MediaWiki to support it might be a large hassle... [[User:JesseWeinstein|JesseWeinstein]] 07:39, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

For the moment, would you just shut off account creation completely -- and tell people to email if they want an account? That would at least stop the deluge -- at this rate, it's not going to be feasible to clean up if it continues... [[User:JesseWeinstein|JesseWeinstein]] 07:37, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
::This can be done (albeit inefficiently) by blocking all ~65,000 /16 ranges; I've done the first three as a demonstration here: [[Special:BlockList]]; I could hack up a script to do the rest of them if necessary. PLEASE, do something sooner rather than later, and render this unnecessary. Or just reenable the SpamBlacklist extension so I can use *that* to prevent the flood. Or just take the wiki offline; but somthing is urgently needed.
==Cleaning up the mess==
The page [http://wiki.creativecommons.org/index.php?title=Special:NewPages&limit=500&namespace=2 Special:NewPages] provides a good list of the ~150 pages that need to be deleted. I see you've done some already; any (more) spare time you have to chop a few more would be certainly appreciated. [[User:JesseWeinstein|JesseWeinstein]] 17:28, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

== Restore link to Russian ==

* Hello. Why [http://wiki.creativecommons.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=next&oldid=22795 was removed link to the Russian]? Please, restore link to Russian. --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 17:59, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
** Must have been an incomplete copy/paste, I've restored it, thanks! [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 19:45, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

== [[FFAQ#Is use X a violation of the Noncommercial clause of the licenses?]] ==

"We hope to announce the results of the study in early 2009." Can you update the page? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 05:34, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
:Done, thanks! --[[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 06:02, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
:: I'm also done with translation =)) +[[Ru:FFAQ]] --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 04:26, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Cool, thanks! Added translation link to [[FFAQ]] --[[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 07:08, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

== [[Browser Plugin]] ==

Hello! Can you restore this page? I think, that it's very useful. --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 13:54, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
:Done. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 17:53, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

== Russian translation of Commons Deed ==

Hello again! Please help me. We want to publish Russian Commons Deed on CC website (on http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.ru) WITHOUT porting of licenses to Russian law. Why not? Esperanto version was published, but Esperanto don't have official status in some country. Russian version is important thing, it not just state language of Russia, it is lingua franca in countries of former USSR like Esperanto. Why not to publish translation? Can you help me? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 17:37, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
:Hello again! Thanks for contributing to http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/CC/team/ru/ ... I'm looking into this, will report back here ASAP. --[[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 17:43, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
:Also, http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue667 --[[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 18:02, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
:: Hmm... I don't understand this. =)) Explain to me, Russian translation will be published or not? When? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 18:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
:: So... what? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 20:48, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
:: Thanks! --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 13:26, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
:: Why Russian [http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/deed.ru CC0] and [http://search.creativecommons.org/?lang=ru CCSearch] don't work? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 22:11, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
:::CC0 probably because latest changes aren't live yet. I believe http://staging.creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/deed.ru ought reflect what is in transifex. I will check with our sysadmin on pushing live Monday. Search, we're about to make some major changes, so translations haven't been updated on the live site for awhile. I'll write back Monday on status of that as well. Thanks! [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 01:02, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
:::: Also don't work [http://creativecommons.org/choose/?lang=ru Russian License Chooser] (text in English, but it translated to Russian), but early Chooser works. --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 07:32, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::::: Added info/who to ping to push to production at http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Translating_CC_Deeds#When_Does_The_Server_Get_Updated.3F [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 22:49, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::: But [http://search.creativecommons.org/?lang=ru CCSearch] translated several month ago, but yet don't works. Maybe it different error, not just updating? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 09:24, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

== creativecommons.ru ==

Hello again! I want create Russian CC website. Can I get access to settings of creativecommons.ru? Or can you make some changes in settings of creativecommons.ru? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 00:13, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
:Generally such sites are run by a jurisdiction affiliate, but current behavior of http://www.creativecommons.ru/ isn't optimal. I'm going to have to discuss with others in CC. I'll give you an update as well as ETA re above turning on Russian deed translations next week. Thanks for poking on this. --[[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 19:02, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
::For now http://creativecommons.ru has been made to redirect to http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Ru:%D0%97%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0 though for some reason www. isn't yet, will soon. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 01:18, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::: Can you give creativecommons.ru to me, not redirect to wiki? I create [http://creativecommonsru.narod.ru/ prototype of Russian page] and want that you change NS-servers to ns.narod2.ru and ns1.narod2.ru or add CNAME: "creativecommons.ru IN CNAME creativecommonsru.narod2.ru". --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 06:07, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::: You can do this? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 21:31, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
:::: Hi, apologies for late response. You should email diane@creativecommmons.org about your interest in running the creativecommons.ru site. Diane runs our affiliate program, including the agreements necessary to allow one to run an official CC jurisdiction website. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 22:28, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
::::: Unfortunately, "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender". Maybe other contact? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 13:14, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::: Oops, typo, extra 'm' in domain, my fault. Try diane@creativecommons.org [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 22:48, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::: Oh, right! --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 22:53, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

== Deletion ==

Please delete [[Ru:О творческих общинах]], [[Ru:Лицензии Creative Commons]] and [[Ru:Лицензии]]. --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 00:20, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
:Done. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 01:22, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
:: No. Please restore and delete exactly redirects, not pages. --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 05:54, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::: Sorry, should be the way you want now. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 06:50, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
:::: Thanks! --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 09:38, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

== [[Metrics]] ==

Hello! When will update of "Approximate Minimum Total CC Licensed Works"? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 04:51, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
:Hello! Probably in April. We're trying to add/corroborate with other data sources, as Yahoo!'s index is probably getting stale. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 18:55, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

== CC licenses is revocable in Russia ==

Hello! What do you think that according to Russian law all licenses will revocable is critical problem? Is it serious obstacle for porting of licenses? Will CC in future approve Russian CC licenses without irrevocable term? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 13:53, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
: As far as I understand "[http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.en In no way are any of the following rights affected by the license: The author's moral rights]" and it means that moral "right of withdrawal" not conflicted with CC. Yes? CC licenses ported to French law, in which also [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_copyright_law#Moral_rights exists "right of withdrawal"]. --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 11:27, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
:: Hello?! --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 11:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:: Hi, sorry for late response. I'm not aware of that particular problem. Others having been cited are requirement of an actual signature and inability to make a free license between two profit making enterprises. These may make using a public license in Russia theoretically impossible; I have no idea what their practical import is. I expect porting activity to wind down for now pending discussion of how we address in 4.0, so it is probably a moot point specifically regarding a port. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 00:30, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

== Seal "Approved for Free Cultural Works" font ==

Hi! could you let us know the name of the Fonts used for making the Green "Approved for Free Cultural Works" seal? I'm thinking of translating it to Spanish.

Thanks in advance. --[[User:Wazaraki|Wazaraki]]

: Oh, also about Free Cultural Works. And I want to set link to [http://freedomdefined.org/Definition/Ru Russian translation] instead standard English. Can you do this? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 09:32, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

: See File:Approved-for-free-cultural-works.svg for source, please translate and upload translation. TarzanASG, I'm not sure how easy that will be, but I've added a feature request http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue865 --[[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 01:45, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

== The only warning ! ==

If you will make this again, then will regret very strongly. Be careful. Offenders which create psevdo licenses having no legal force in any country, will destroyed like cockroaches. You can be sure. You are vandal. You and your friends will pay millions of dollars for the desecration of copyright. This is warning. I know about every piece of this criminal territory, where rights holders lose these millions of dollars. Under my control are the biggest social networks of Russia which related to The Beatles and not only. I can easy tell about crimes which implement here, for big number of different people (a lot of of thousand). Sit quietly and do not move, stupid fool. I hope you understood me. --[[User:Master grand|Grand Master]] 05:57, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

== Strange links. Maybe vandalism ==

Hello! [[Special:Contributions/Tsanioke|Tsanioke]] adds strange links. Maybe it is vandalism. --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 14:21, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
:Thanks, blocked and rolled back contributions. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 14:46, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

== "Distribute" - as appropriate ==

Hello! I want to ask about "''"Distribute" means to make available to the public the original and copies of the Work or Adaptation, as appropriate, through sale or other transfer of ownership''" from 3.0 licenses. What does "as appropriate" mean in this context? "'''Any''' actions, '''including''' sale or other transfer" or "'''only''' through sale or other transfer"? Russian dictionaries say different. --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 12:41, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
:Hi, I think "as appropriate" refers to "Work or Adaptation", meaning the sentence can be read "the Work ... through sale..." or "the Adaptation ... through sale" depending on whether a Work or Adaptation is the thing being distributed - as appropriate to Work or Adaptation. I will check on whether this is correct and leave a note here. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 17:15, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
:: I say not about this. I ask how to translate "as appropriate" at all. According to dictionaries we have 2 versions of translation into Russian because "as appropriate":
:: 1) For "Distribution" people '''must''' only sale or '''must''' only transfer of ownership. No other variants or alternatives. All other actions is prohibited (well, for "Distribute" term, of course). '''Free Internet-"Distribution" is also prohibited'''.
:: 2) For "Distribution" people can sale, transfer of ownership or '''anything, any actions''' (any actions "made available to the public the original and copies"). '''Free Internet-"Distribution" is allowed'''.
:: Taking account of Wikipedia, I think 2nd translation is more correct. Am I right? Or distribution of Wikipedia is "Reproduce", and not "Distribute"? --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 17:55, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
:::I don't think "as appropriate" applies to "through sale or other transfer of ownership" at all, but rather the preceding text, so I'm not sure I understand your question. But clearly free Internet distribution is allowed. [[User:Mike Linksvayer|Mike Linksvayer]] 18:12, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
:::: Ok! I think I understood. If "as appropriate" applies to "Work or Adaptation", then "Distribute" means only material paper hard copy distribution, and "Reproduce" means free Internet distribution. So and we don't have problems. Thanks! --[[User:TarzanASG|TarzanASG]] 18:39, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

== Block User:Ronisarono ==

Hi,
This guy vandalised [[CC_Wiki:Translate]]. I could not find a community discussion page for the wiki, or where to report vandalism. Is there such a page? It should be mentioned on the Wiki Home, then.
Cheers, H.